I figured I had better get the info. over here on the "real" forum about my recent acquisition of the HF 17" BS. (I am sure some of you have read the information below elsewhere).
On a whim I went and bought a used HF 17" off of CL here is the story:
Browsing CL I found a HF 17" BS
. This saw has been discussed here in the past and the consensus speculation has been that it is very similar if not identical to the Griz G0513
. I haven't ever seen anybody state for sure it is the same saw because the HF is catalog order only and so, is the Griz. In other words to do a direct comparison someone has to either own both or find access to both other than a retail store display. It has a list of $800 but calling HF has produced a price of $480+$86.99 shipping rate plus the actual freight at the time of delivery.
The Griz is around $950 shipped and does include a better warranty and their outstanding customer service.
Well, I went and bought it on the cheap from the CL ad and have compared it directly with my G0513. The HF saw I bought is 7 years old and my Griz is 2 years old.
Other than paint, stickers, poly tires vs. rubber on the Griz, and the wiring (HF comes ready for 120V where the Griz is wired for 240V both saws can be wired 120V or 240V) they are essentially the same. The blade speeds specs are different on the product page and you'll notice in the pic that the HF does have a smaller motor sheeve. Other than that it is virtually identical in every way right down to the casting numbers on various parts. In other words, it is coming from the same place.
I have also taken various measurements and the HF tolerances appear just as tight as the Griz and in fact they are better in a few cases.
The saw performs very much the same as the Griz. If I was blind pushing wood through them I know I couldn't tell the difference from one saw to the other and the wood certainly won't either. I pushed it pretty hard, resawing some 8-1/2' red oak and it never hesitated just plowed through it.
You'll notice that in the pictures the fences are different but that is because the Griz has been upgraded. It originally came with the same fence that is on the HF. The Fry Guy can provide the details about these "upgrades" if summoned.